Wednesday, February 17, 2010

the NOVUS ORDO MISSAE Debate mp3

Peter Dimond vs. William Albrecht

Is the New Mass Valid?

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This is the debate that caused Peter Dimond to begin accusing me of using spurious quotations and even caused him to inadvertently DENY the Council of Trent!

I will be debating the NOVUS ORDO MISSAE again this Saturday against Ken Bird. GOD BLESS!

-William Albrecht


  1. thank u for this debate. i met you in corpus when you were at a conference with steve ray and other great catholic defenders. god bless u william.

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  4. I am not a sedevacantist but I don't believe you refuted all Dimonds argunents. I would call it at best a draw.
    The Exodus argument would seem to be in Dimonds favour even though it was used as part of your argument. The word "All" has indeed allowed for division and scruples to occur and I can't for the life of me understand why it was ever changed from "Many."
    The fact that the New Missal prepared under pope Benedict xvi reverts back to the word Many, adds even more weight to Peter Dimonds argument and the fact that the Novus Ordo allowed for so much experimentation in itself shows that it was not a prudent change.
    I would much rather see presure brought to bear in correcting fhe dubious and ambiguious form rather than it being defended.
    Hopefully the New Missal will do this unto the the reunification of Sedevancantism and Vii.